Hosted by Andy H. Gruff, I don't know but will check mine when I get home tonight and report in if it is on mine. 0000001570 00000 n 4 (T) 303 BRITISH SNIPER RIFLE 1944 . No4 rifles were given a starting number that may be used to identify manufacturers, but again there was no set serial blocks. Length: approximately 44 inches, Barrel Length: approximately 25 inches. Even the spring plunger is a stamping. 5 will have "Rifle No 5 Mk I" electrostencilled there, [20] while a post-war conversion will generally have either no markings or markings from manufacturers who did not make the No. Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. 4) Several arrow looking things located all over the rifle not at all lol, from the markings I can find and other details would you guys say it's a long branch with a savage magazine? According to Skennerton, 25,000 experimental MkII scabbards were manufactured by the Franco-British Electrical Company, Tempel Park, Hurley. Another dimension is whether to use (or if it is fitted) to include the front trigger guard triangular sling swivel (included in the factory build from Nov 1944 onwards and added by armourers as found after). . The "S" was added to indicate the need for this re-zeroing as a subsequent step. For official references, usually the finished and issued rifle was tracked by its rack number and of course these records have long since been destroyed or lost forever. The entrenching tool was made by William Hunt & Sons, The Brades Ltd., Brades Steel Works, Oldbury, near Birmingham. 10,203. With the bayonet fixed, the helve was used to probe for land mines. An average example runs about $375 in very good condition at the time of this writing. Adopted by the British Army in 1939 the No.4 came into full production during the height of World War 2. Don(B3)RAOC Primary Pack. One of the recent Pakistani surplus releases featured a range of No4T and their replacement parts - now circulating in European, Australian and USA markets. I and some Prince-Smith examples exhibiting rough tool marks. BO 12151 (the five digit no. The No. Over the years I have received many emails regarding serial numbers. Four scabbard designs saw significant use with the No. 0000000756 00000 n According to Graham Priest, on a rough scale of observations, he indicated that you see 100P.S.& S.Ltd for every circle mark; 150P.S.K for every circle mark, and 500N56 or unmarked for every circle mark. 4 Mk. Very good 5 groove barrel. I, with the bayonet and socket one solid forging. The No. The No. If anyone can help me out I would really appreciate it. The left side of the receiver is marked "NO 4 MK 1*". Although troops often resorted to more expedient means of modifying frogs to retain No. The rifle functions beautifully, I'm just trying to track things down as much as I can. Those who live by the sword get shot. These war time sling swivels were made by Hollands and are typically browned steel. identification lists detailing by illustration, descriptive part name and part number, all parts of the Rifle, .303 Calibre, Lee Enfield, No 4, Mk 1 * and its associated equipment. Serial Numbers, Model, Mark and Manufacture Identification, Serial Number and Manufacturer Information Locations. "1951" and broad arrow proofmark, Cover (Inside): "P.S.S. Canadian Arsenals marked their bayonets with an "A" nested inside a "C". Popularly known as the "Victory Plastics" scabbard, it was unique in design compared to all other No. It was published in 2007, available now from Aust., N.Z., US and UK distributors. Certain serial number prefixes were reserved for trial rifles and specific rifle types. 0000001426 00000 n 4 Mk I, chambered in the same .303 British cartridge as the SMLE, retained the better features of the SMLE (in 1926, the SMLE was renamed the No. The safety latch style and M47C mark are of note as is the rear pad, flush slotted screw and interestingly the screw being staked at the top. long by 0.8125in. 4 (T) Sniper Rifle, All About The Wofford College Rifle Team | An NRA Shooting Sports Journal, 7 Tactical Lever-Action Rifles Available In 2023 | An Official Journal Of The NRA, New: American Tactical Black Creek Labs MRX Bronco Rifle | An NRA Shooting Sports Journal, Remington Returns: The Revival Of An Ammunition Giant, Westley Richards: Bespoke Craftsmanship With Timeless Appeal, Henry Supports Fallen Firefighters Foundation, Favorite Firearms: A Reminder Of Dad | Mossberg 26B, The Keefe Report: True Velocity's Leap | An Official Journal Of The NRA, The Keefe Report: On The Range With An American Hero | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Trust But Verify: Function-Checking Your Guns | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Reading A Rifle: The Story Of One Mosin-Nagant | An Official Journal Of The NRA, WATCH: 2022 National Sporting Clays Championship | An NRA Shooting Sports Journal, WATCH: Colt Python Revolver History | An NRA Shooting Sports Journal, I Have This Old Gun: Maynard Carbine | An Official Journal Of The NRA, I Have This Old Gun: Winchester Model 12 Riot Gun | An Official Journal Of The NRA, I Have This Old Gun: Remington Model 51 | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Armed Citizen protected by Smith & Wesson, The Armed Citizen Feb. 24, 2023 | An Official Journal Of The NRA, BEAR Arms: Making The Switch From Gun Owner to Armed Citizen | An Official Journal Of The NRA, NRA Women | The Armed Citizen February 17, 2023, NRA Women | The Armed Citizen February 10, 2023, Recipe: Slow Cooker Thai Peanut Pheasant | An Official Journal Of The NRA, NRA Hunters' Leadership Forum | Freedom Hunters: Giving Back to Americas Veterans through Hunting and the Great Outdoors, Beretta's U22 Neos: A Legacy Gun Not Forgotten | An Official Journal Of The NRA, NRA Hunters' Leadership Forum | Get Tickets for the NRA Shows Annual Celebration of Hunting, April 13, Hardware: SIG Sauer P320-XTEN | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Rifleman Review: Smith & Wesson M&P12 | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Review: Ruger 10/22 Compact | An NRA Shooting Sports Journal, Rifleman Review: Taurus G3X | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Video Review: Springfield Armory XD-M Elite 4.5 OSP in 10mm Auto | NRA Family, Springfield Armory XD-M Elite 4.5 OSP In 10 mm Auto, Video Review: KelTec P15 Semi-Auto Pistol | NRA Family, Video Review: Savage Stance Pistol | NRA Family, Preview: Leupold 2-10X 30 mm Mark 5HD Riflescope | An Official Journal Of The NRA, NRA Women | New for 2022: 20-Gauge Beretta A400 Xtreme Plus, Preview: Springfield Armory 1911 DS Double-Stack 9 mm Pistol Lineup | An NRA Shooting Sports Journal, Find More Great NRA Publications Perfect For Every Interest, Discover Everything That The NRA Has To Offer. Smith & Wesson's new M&P FPC is a compact, folding pistol-caliber carbine chambered in 9 mm Luger and designed to accept the company's M&P handgun magazines. 0000012831 00000 n II bayonets during 1941 and 1942. 1 Mk. "AM/712" indicates procurement via an Air Ministry (RAF) contract. 0000001961 00000 n Go to. Because of its great simplicity, the government was able to let contracts to firms not previously associated with arms production. These come for the Lee-Enfield No.4 MK1. We set ourselves apart by supplying unique parts at a good value and standing by our products by offering outstanding customer service. Only 75,000 of this type were made. N30 over H&B (pictured at left). Brass is said to have been an alternative screw material, but I have yet to see them installed - even in Ts from other nations. 0000013061 00000 n It was a simplified version of the Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield rifle that served the Empire so well in the first unpleasantness. 4 Mk. Date Packed: 7/8/57 Sujets similaires According to Skennerton, these scabbards were most likely made in North America, either the USA or Canada. N56 (not pictured). However, this has not been substantiated. The new model became the Magazine, Lee Enfield Mk1 or MLE Mk1 in 1895. Along with the manufacturers name both the date of manufacture and the type and mark of the rifle is also shown. broad arrow proofmark 1943" over "CAT. mark) on a scopeless 1944 BSA. 1.5 - Added 200% more memes for all my Brazilian fans. In practice and service, the size, position and shape of the cheekpiece was altered to suite the needs of the snipe that the rifle was designated for - these are an interesting study within themselves. .303 isn't any different that anything else. Most likely Jordanian from the Arab Legion, but could also have been used by Iraq. Wartime guns all had letter prefixes, but each. There is no US PROPERTY stamped into the top angle of the receiver as well. ,DTvb5@ kg:v%A$6%#,6J,q]+9 V ,,mD$\"L3-p0$z2 cC+`i`,pIt jns;Nt=_e9AA r ^G? Here, he explains their advantages and disadvantagesand how to use them safely. These included the Ross MK. Scabbard (frog stud): "Bg" over Crown-JF proofmark. %PDF-1.4 % The easiest way to identify a "Jungle Carbine" rifle is to look for the markings on the left hand side of the receiver; a genuine No. The bolt heads are marked 0, 1, 2, or 3. Armourers would not make a buttstock with S51 for spare parts. Also, the Tape Hunt makes a return. 30,000 rod forgings. He was born in 1921 and later served as a navy corpsman in Japan and Korea. 0000002978 00000 n The markings were different for the different manufacturers and time periods, but they are all well documented in various books. Before the war, Prince-Smith was a manufacturer of machinery for making woolen textiles. . Nearly 5 million spike bayonets were reported produced. No4 mk1 is stamped on the side of the reciever. Four mouthpiece materials have been documented: Zinc Alloy (Mazak), Steel, Aluminum, and brass. by Saxon Cross 23 Mar 2012, 13:50, Post Apr 25, 2010 #2 Threeband The M1 Does My Talking This condition remained until the end of the No4T life and the introduction of its replacement - the L42. 0000007555 00000 n $8.69 shipping. 4Mk. I (T) and No. An increasing consensus is that this simply may be a British viewer's mark, as this mark seems only to be found on Prince-Smith examples. This CFTO is for identification purposes only and is not an authority to procure parts. ownership marking. The Lee Enfield by Ian Skennerton (2007) - ISBN: 9780949749826 . Approved in November 1939, along with the Lee-Enfield No. The factory site was razed to accommodate (apartment) flats in the mid-1980s. I have a serial number and FTR on the piece you have a picture of; my date is on the main part of the gun right above where your stuff is. 0000001613 00000 n Post The British MoD was running short of scope brackets and cheek pieces as it started the L42 service extension program so new surplus examples are rare on the ground. The rifle's two-piece stock and 10-round magazine are two of its most distinctive features. Prince-Smith & Stells in Keighly, Yorkshire, produced 1,057,515 No. "F.F. Two Swiss codes are noted. 4Mk. BRITISH or CANADIAN WWII ENFIELD SLING or BREN used cond. The Indian plant stamped their own serial number into the top of the receiver. The M47C is typical, as is the date and TR mark. by Saxon Cross 22 Mar 2012, 21:45, Post 4Mk. British infantry rifle Lee -Enfield No.4 Mark 1 of WW2. Sight system is wing protected blade front with flip up dual aperture rear, with calibrations of 800 yards. I rifle, the No. Since the overall length is 46", it will fit many other rifles. The No4 Mk1 (T) rifles are pretty easy to verify as they were marked clearly on the wrist band, action and scope mounts. I sniper variants. I bayonet was a throwback. II* bayonet has Arabic markings on the socket. The sling worked well enough in dry / sunny climates like Africa and Italy, but in the UK training camps and northern Europe they were found to be "slippy" to use and needing lots of preservative (Dubbin) to survive the wet conditions. Here are 2 genuine early Singer produced sights - the SM 41 example was more correct to apply to my 1941 MalTby: Note the all blackened finish - dark and matt - typical of war time efforts at H&H. On the right the "England" stamp was a required format for origin to be imported into the US after @1965 and is clearly stamped through all of the finish layers. 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